411 LE, parts to be saved, act quickly

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Post by 937carrera » 27th June 2020 - 10:24pm

Ah, when you said boot floor I was thinking of the engine end, I'll check with Richt
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Post by richtbiscuits » 27th June 2020 - 10:42pm

Thanks for hosting. Always enjoy a day of parts salvage! Will be back with a van for the roof, bulkhead behind the petrol tank, floors and rear side cuts. And mustn't forget the ball-joints and other bits too. Two cars shall become one! Such a strange thing to pull so much good stuff from a car that seems so bad!
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Post by Dave Summers » 27th June 2020 - 10:53pm

Yes, it's satisfying to save everything useful off a rotten car. I thought I'd done that with my 4-door 411 a few years ago, but then when I took the front subframe off my 412 project, two of the three bolts sheared. If i'd cut into the inner wings on the scrap car and kept the sliding nuts I'd have saved myself a bit of work.
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Post by broady_6 » 27th June 2020 - 11:12pm

richt, which route are you taking up to Davids? I only ask as we could possibly cross paths with this sill ive got for you.
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Post by richtbiscuits » 28th June 2020 - 5:10pm

Broady, its M6, M42, M1, M18, A1M with whatever junctions the Sat nav tells me.
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Post by broady_6 » 28th June 2020 - 8:06pm

Soemthing like this? You dont pass a million miles away from me. Depending on the time and day. I could meet you somewhere around doncaster, yorkshire wild life sort of area?
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Post by richtbiscuits » 29th June 2020 - 10:53pm

Yeah, the blue one is the way I go. I'm planning on setting off around 6am Saturday morning but need to confirm with David that Saturday is okay to go up. If you're up early we could meet Doncaster way.
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Post by broady_6 » 30th June 2020 - 11:47am

Keep me posted. About 45 minutes to Doncaster for me. So not to much of an early start.

Couple of places between junction 3 and 4 on the M18 that work for me as a meeting point.
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Post by 937carrera » 30th June 2020 - 2:33pm

Saturday is fine for me.... I'll give you a call this evening Rich
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Post by richtbiscuits » 1st July 2020 - 9:57pm

David, I'll call tomorrow. I had another look round my project and might want some more cuts, if they're not claimed already.

Broady, Saturday early doors is good for me. Whereabouts? Send me a post code so sat nav can tell me where to go!
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Post by 937carrera » 1st July 2020 - 10:08pm

Sorry... been busy.....I'll let you know when we speak
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Post by Dave Summers » 1st July 2020 - 10:19pm

David
Like Rich I've had a look at my 411 - peeled the boot carpet off for the first time. I can confirm that the spare wheel well and surrounding floor would be very useful for it if Rich doesn't need them. Huge gap in the spare wheel well, and the left side of the floor is well holed. Right side not so bad. Upright (in front of the petrol tank) is solid except some possible porosity where some seam sealer has come off.
If the part of your boot lining that sits over the spare wheel is reasonable I would be interested in that too.

Rich - your car sounds like a big project. I hope you're successful.
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Post by 937carrera » 1st July 2020 - 10:50pm

The wheel well itself seems pretty good, and some of the area around, so that would seem to be a good match.

We chopped the nose off last weekend, in case that was of any use. The rear section below the tailgate seems OK, except for the lower edges, but I think your is a saloon, so no use for you ? That was another area to potentially save.

The way things are going Richt's car is going to be a 411.5, rather than a 412
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Post by Dave Summers » 1st July 2020 - 11:09pm

Thanks David. Yes, I saw from the photo that the nose was off. My front end seems sound enough.
The car is a saloon and I got a full rear end for it some time ago off another scrapper. I have a 412 Variant too but the body on it is pretty good - still needs some work around the fresh air box and rear wheel arches but otherwise solid.
Are your seats white under the dirt? If so, they're the same as mine (front only, obviously). I didn't ask before as mine aren't bad, and carriage or storage could be a problem, but if nobody else wants them, it would be a shame if they had to be dumped.
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Post by richtbiscuits » 1st July 2020 - 11:38pm

Dave, I posted a few photos of my project under the imaginative title '412 project' in the Member cars and projects section so you can see what I'm trying to resurrect.

David, I think I'm gonna want that rear valance. And everything else that isn't rust. Might need some more cutting discs!!! I see you've seen the photos - it actually looked sort of okay with all the panels on, if you squinted at it, with just one eye, from quite far away! I think 411.9 might be more accurate by the time its all said and done.
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Post by broady_6 » 2nd July 2020 - 9:06pm

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Post by 937carrera » 2nd July 2020 - 10:54pm

Looks like the final stages and cutting will be taking place on Saturday.

Lots of stuff being reused, a couple of chunky items that have no home:

Doors (pretty good apart from the bottom section
Tailgate - very good
Interior, seats and doorcards - needs a good clean but no cuts etc

Dave Summers - I'll try and get a photo for you.It would be better if there was a home for the full variant interior, lets' see
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Post by Stevosquare » 2nd July 2020 - 11:42pm

937carrera wrote:
2nd July 2020 - 10:54pm
Looks like the final stages and cutting will be taking place on Saturday.

Lots of stuff being reused, a couple of chunky items that have no home:

Doors (pretty good apart from the bottom section
Tailgate - very good
Interior, seats and doorcards - needs a good clean but no cuts etc

Dave Summers - I'll try and get a photo for you.It would be better if there was a home for the full variant interior, lets' see

Hi David.
I could do with a set of seats for my Variant as mine are torn apart but understand if Dave Summers needs them. If so could I have second dibs please?

EDIT. I’m also after a rear boot carpet if it’s survived and any interior door/ tailgate panels.
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Post by 937carrera » 3rd July 2020 - 12:02am

Richt has snaffled the carpets and I believe the door cards / handles are different between 411 and 412 so they won't fit, which is a bit of a shame as that could have meant the whole interior being reused.
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Post by Stevosquare » 3rd July 2020 - 12:13am

No problems. If there’s any news on seats please let me know.
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Post by Dave Summers » 3rd July 2020 - 10:45pm

Stevosquare wrote:
3rd July 2020 - 12:13am
No problems. If there’s any news on seats please let me know.
Stevosquare, I'm happy for you to have the seats. The front ones in my 411 aren't too bad and obviously the Variant rear one won't fit.
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Post by Dave Summers » 3rd July 2020 - 10:54pm

Stevosquare wrote:
3rd July 2020 - 12:13am
No problems. If there’s any news on seats please let me know.
Just had a thought - if you're replacing your seats could I buy the cables that pull the backrests forward from your old ones? I've got a broken cable in my 412.
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Post by Stevosquare » 3rd July 2020 - 10:57pm

Dave Summers wrote:
3rd July 2020 - 10:54pm
Stevosquare wrote:
3rd July 2020 - 12:13am
No problems. If there’s any news on seats please let me know.
Just had a thought - if you're replacing your seats could I buy the cables that pull the backrests forward from your old ones? I've got a broken cable in my 412.

Thanks Dave, that’s a big help to my resto. Yes of course, They all work fine so I will arrange to get you the cables.

You can have them for free if you cover postage.
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Post by Dave Summers » 4th July 2020 - 11:53am

Stevosquare wrote:
3rd July 2020 - 10:57pm
Dave Summers wrote:
3rd July 2020 - 10:54pm
Stevosquare wrote:
3rd July 2020 - 12:13am
No problems. If there’s any news on seats please let me know.
Just had a thought - if you're replacing your seats could I buy the cables that pull the backrests forward from your old ones? I've got a broken cable in my 412.

Thanks Dave, that’s a big help to my resto. Yes of course, They all work fine so I will arrange to get you the cables.

You can have them for free if you cover postage.
Thanks very much. PM sent.
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Post by 937carrera » 5th July 2020 - 12:05am

Another long day with Richtbiscuits getting bits and cuts from the shell. We have been eating cutting discs,so here's the day in pictures

First of all some rear views, rear wings removed
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Then we went to the front and took a cut of the wheel well for Dave Summers

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Oooh that's a change, anyone fancy a 411 speedster ?
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